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Bruce Raben's avatar

Sometimes people think that there is always a choice between a good or bad alternative. But often you only get to choose the least bad. As you said , what country of means that incurred such an attack would turn the other cheek? The answer is none. And deference matters. Israel lost some of that deference. That is fatal. The US also lost much credibility going back to Obama’s red line. And if you talk to people in Israel as I have there is no way they will not retaliate and take out Hamas.

I also think Netanyahu has got to go. This was a security failure and the buck stops with him. And he is a corrupt jerk who created a right wing coalition to stay in power that emboldened the so called settler movement which has poured gasoline on the fire

Israel has no desire to occupy Gaza. The Arab nations should organize post conflict governance and I believe they would be willing to do so

And Iran’s fingerprints are on this and of course you have Qatar who gives safe harbor to Hamas leadership.

A rough neighborhood

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Arrr Bee's avatar

Stop saying this is anything like 9/11, because that urge to dig for similarity doesn’t make it true. If a Mexican cartel cloaked itself in a pseudo-nationalistic intent of ‘reclaiming California for Mexico’ (by murdering American civilians) and took over Tijuana from the Mexican government, then for 15 years turned it into a missile base from which to shoot rockets into all of Southern California, maybe you’d have a similar metaphor. If that culminated into death squads going into San Diego and murdering over a thousand Americans of all creeds and races, maybe you’d be close.

Does anyone here think the US wouldn’t be justified and also strategically correct in a counter invasion, despite the horrors of urban warfare, after telling residents to flee south?

To say Israel isn't allowed to bomb buildings that contain Hamas HQs and ammo is blatantly incorrect. To claim Israel isn’t allowed to go after the underground rocket launching sites and tunnels full of genocidal terrorists is also untrue. The reason clever people lecture Israel, is because they can’t fathom what it’s like to live next to such an organization dedicated to genocide. Also, ‘clever people’ always rush to make sure Israel can’t respond in any way. And lastly, Jews only are allowed to die, not retaliate. That’s the ‘progressive’ way.

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