"super-bigoted shit, like how 'any Jewish person that votes for Democrats hates their religion'"
The direct quote with context:
“I actually think they hate Israel,” Trump said. “I don’t think they hate him, I think they hate Israel. And the Democrat Party hates Israel.”
“Any Jewish person that votes for Democrats hates their religion,” Trump said. “They hate everything about Israel, and they should be ashamed of themselves because Israel will be destroyed.”
Ohhh the hypocrisy knows no bounds with you guys\xals\whatever you call yourselves today.
I'm a little confused "Just An A." Do you think the full quote with context puts Trump in a better light than DD portrays him? Or is your point that the full context is just as damning?
I don't know what that answer means either. So since you're not coherent, I'm just going to assume that means you're supportive of Trump and don't think DD is portraying him fairly. Here is why I disagree.
I'm a Jewish American who is, and always has been a strong supporter of Israel. We're temple members, my kids all became B'Nai Mitzvah, I visited Israel when I was young for six weeks (and it was one of the most important trips of my life), I expect my kids will also all do Birthright, I give money to Israeli causes, and I generally root for Israeli athletes at the Olympics when they're not competing against Americans.
I'm someone who strongly believes is Israel's right (and really obligation) to strike back against Hamas after October 7th, and while I disagree with some of the ways that Israel has prosecuted that fight, I also think David Brooks' recent column about the challenges of fighting against Hamas are real and that Hamas ultimately bears primary responsibility for the deaths of innocent Palestinians in Gaza in the war.
Having said that, I also am someone who has been a strong J-Street Supporter for 15+ years, I blame Benjamin Netanyahu for both propping up Hamas and for Israel's lack of preparedness defending against the attack , and I think Joe Biden since the 7th has been an incredible friend to Israel, but would be an even better friend going forward if he put much MORE pressure on Israel to pull the Settlers out of the West Bank. You can see a full description of what I think is needed to finally bring peace to the region here: https://gordonstrause.substack.com/p/israel-and-the-palestinians
Now it's fine for people to disagree with me and have a different opinion. Certainly I have friends and family who think differently. But the idea that my beliefs make me anti-Israel, much less anti-Jewish, are absurd and offensive. What's amazing is that this probably doesn't even make a top 10 list of the most offensive things Trump has said.
Dual loyalty of Jewish Americans to their country and faith (and spiritual and alternative political homeland, Israel) used to be a slur against American Jews. The idea was that loyalty was zero sum. Any loyalty for the faith, or Israel, was less for America. But now, according to Trump, and many others on the right, apparently dual loyalty is an obligation for American Jews to be such in good standing. Millions would say that's BS, and their viewpoints are their choice. Free country, free conscience.
Hey Daniel I'm tired of waiting. At what point do detractors pile on and drive me away leaving oaths, insults, and gaining you about fifty new subscribers? : )
"a Trump administration, willing to use the tools of government to reward allies and punish enemies." That's speculation. The Biden administration has already done it. That's fact.
The first is an unnamed source. Poor journalism to say the least. The second is a minor flap from hearsay speculation. Neither is anywhere close to the broad and continuous efforts to "use the tools of government to reward allies and punish enemies" we see today.
The first has Trump fighting the very thing we're talking about (!) The second is a compendium of semi-hysterical opinions. That Trump subverted the election is an opinion, and we can't continue if we can't agree what is opinion and what is fact.
I'm nonpartisan. This is the problem when I discuss politics with either side. THEIR SIDE is right. THEIR SIDE issues facts. No they don't. They issue opinions and tell you it's facts.
"super-bigoted shit, like how 'any Jewish person that votes for Democrats hates their religion'"
The direct quote with context:
“I actually think they hate Israel,” Trump said. “I don’t think they hate him, I think they hate Israel. And the Democrat Party hates Israel.”
“Any Jewish person that votes for Democrats hates their religion,” Trump said. “They hate everything about Israel, and they should be ashamed of themselves because Israel will be destroyed.”
Ohhh the hypocrisy knows no bounds with you guys\xals\whatever you call yourselves today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTrT3gYVRs8
I'm a little confused "Just An A." Do you think the full quote with context puts Trump in a better light than DD portrays him? Or is your point that the full context is just as damning?
The fake dialectic will not work on me.
I don't know what that answer means either. So since you're not coherent, I'm just going to assume that means you're supportive of Trump and don't think DD is portraying him fairly. Here is why I disagree.
I'm a Jewish American who is, and always has been a strong supporter of Israel. We're temple members, my kids all became B'Nai Mitzvah, I visited Israel when I was young for six weeks (and it was one of the most important trips of my life), I expect my kids will also all do Birthright, I give money to Israeli causes, and I generally root for Israeli athletes at the Olympics when they're not competing against Americans.
I'm someone who strongly believes is Israel's right (and really obligation) to strike back against Hamas after October 7th, and while I disagree with some of the ways that Israel has prosecuted that fight, I also think David Brooks' recent column about the challenges of fighting against Hamas are real and that Hamas ultimately bears primary responsibility for the deaths of innocent Palestinians in Gaza in the war.
Having said that, I also am someone who has been a strong J-Street Supporter for 15+ years, I blame Benjamin Netanyahu for both propping up Hamas and for Israel's lack of preparedness defending against the attack , and I think Joe Biden since the 7th has been an incredible friend to Israel, but would be an even better friend going forward if he put much MORE pressure on Israel to pull the Settlers out of the West Bank. You can see a full description of what I think is needed to finally bring peace to the region here: https://gordonstrause.substack.com/p/israel-and-the-palestinians
Now it's fine for people to disagree with me and have a different opinion. Certainly I have friends and family who think differently. But the idea that my beliefs make me anti-Israel, much less anti-Jewish, are absurd and offensive. What's amazing is that this probably doesn't even make a top 10 list of the most offensive things Trump has said.
I am very glad you have an opinion. Your political party supports Hamas and Palestinian murderers. Have a wonderful Passover.
Dual loyalty of Jewish Americans to their country and faith (and spiritual and alternative political homeland, Israel) used to be a slur against American Jews. The idea was that loyalty was zero sum. Any loyalty for the faith, or Israel, was less for America. But now, according to Trump, and many others on the right, apparently dual loyalty is an obligation for American Jews to be such in good standing. Millions would say that's BS, and their viewpoints are their choice. Free country, free conscience.
Hey Daniel I'm tired of waiting. At what point do detractors pile on and drive me away leaving oaths, insults, and gaining you about fifty new subscribers? : )
"a Trump administration, willing to use the tools of government to reward allies and punish enemies." That's speculation. The Biden administration has already done it. That's fact.
Yes, it's speculation.... if you were in a medically-induced coma during Trump's first term.
Thanks Daniel. I do not remember the previous administration applauding the censoring of social media or encouraging legal attacks on opponents.
It is possible that your memory and what actually transpired are two very different things.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/04/media/att-time-warner-trump-gary-cohn/index.html
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3849819-trump-asked-twitter-to-take-down-derogatory-tweet-from-chrissy-teigen-whistleblower/
[This took all of two minutes to find btw.]
The first is an unnamed source. Poor journalism to say the least. The second is a minor flap from hearsay speculation. Neither is anywhere close to the broad and continuous efforts to "use the tools of government to reward allies and punish enemies" we see today.
Bless your heart.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-turns-full-force-government-perceived-political-enemies-n1010096
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/24/politics/trump-worst-abuses-of-power/index.html
The first has Trump fighting the very thing we're talking about (!) The second is a compendium of semi-hysterical opinions. That Trump subverted the election is an opinion, and we can't continue if we can't agree what is opinion and what is fact.
I'm nonpartisan. This is the problem when I discuss politics with either side. THEIR SIDE is right. THEIR SIDE issues facts. No they don't. They issue opinions and tell you it's facts.
Wary of a rabid dog and his pack. Human instinct or cowardice, or both.